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		<title>By: Luana Sioma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luana Sioma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy Smokes dude you have got lots of odd error codes on your page about parse error unexpected T String in line 17</description>
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		<title>By: Nathan Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I paid 800 for 3 years and $79.99 every year after.

Got 5 sessions with a trainer. I know people who paid 500 for 3 years and pay $50/year after.

I don&#039;t care. Yeah, the prices are all over the place, but I&#039;m still basically paying $6.67 per month for full gym membership for GYMS that are everywhere where I am and are open 24-hours a day.

It&#039;s better than those people paying $30/month or whatever. 

For 1 year, I was paying $300/month to go to a gym that was a hole in the wall. Had training 2-3 times a week, and I learned how much you can do with some dumb bells, a parking lot, and some hard core training. 

So, $6-7 per month for gym? Jump on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I paid 800 for 3 years and $79.99 every year after.</p>
<p>Got 5 sessions with a trainer. I know people who paid 500 for 3 years and pay $50/year after.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care. Yeah, the prices are all over the place, but I&#8217;m still basically paying $6.67 per month for full gym membership for GYMS that are everywhere where I am and are open 24-hours a day.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s better than those people paying $30/month or whatever. </p>
<p>For 1 year, I was paying $300/month to go to a gym that was a hole in the wall. Had training 2-3 times a week, and I learned how much you can do with some dumb bells, a parking lot, and some hard core training. </p>
<p>So, $6-7 per month for gym? Jump on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, here in Colorado they are opening a 24 hour fitness Super Sport in April 9, 2010, there is another super sport in other area that they had that promotion about 3 year and then yearly a small fee, but I missed, I could not take advantage of it.     I&#039;ve searching all around for this and it seems that there is not for now,  I called today to see whether they have a super great promotion for the GRAND OPENING, they don&#039;t have any information, of course there is promotions in the website, but those are crap promotions so high, $ 44.99 with not $ 0 setup fee, that&#039;s crap or other promotiosn about the sports, but not including the super sport.     I&#039;m wondering if I can pay something like  the 3 years and then a $ 99 yearly or something similar,   Wondering if any of you have experience with the new Grand Openings if they usually do that or before or a little bit after? I&#039;m willing to get something like that if it&#039;s available.  

Please advise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here in Colorado they are opening a 24 hour fitness Super Sport in April 9, 2010, there is another super sport in other area that they had that promotion about 3 year and then yearly a small fee, but I missed, I could not take advantage of it.     I&#8217;ve searching all around for this and it seems that there is not for now,  I called today to see whether they have a super great promotion for the GRAND OPENING, they don&#8217;t have any information, of course there is promotions in the website, but those are crap promotions so high, $ 44.99 with not $ 0 setup fee, that&#8217;s crap or other promotiosn about the sports, but not including the super sport.     I&#8217;m wondering if I can pay something like  the 3 years and then a $ 99 yearly or something similar,   Wondering if any of you have experience with the new Grand Openings if they usually do that or before or a little bit after? I&#8217;m willing to get something like that if it&#8217;s available.  </p>
<p>Please advise.</p>
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		<title>By: Hendog</title>
		<link>http://plaxoed.wordpress.com/2005/05/11/24-hour-crapness/#comment-11375</link>
		<dc:creator>Hendog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got mine for 7 bucks a month, no contract, no initiation fees, no strings attached.  All Club!  Got it through a corporate discount.</description>
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		<title>By: craftymomma</title>
		<link>http://plaxoed.wordpress.com/2005/05/11/24-hour-crapness/#comment-11368</link>
		<dc:creator>craftymomma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest problem this company has is it&#039;s widely swinging prices.  One week they are on sale, then the next week they are not, the following week they are on sale again.  If your that person in the middle you feel screwed.  They are doing this with their bodybugg too.  An example, bodybugg on sale for one month for $199, then the first week of January they are $249, then the second week of January they drop the price to $199 again, but now they have designer face plates included.  The prices fluctuate way too often.  They need to have a regular price and then offer sales 3-4 times a year.  They should also offer a guarantee that if the price drops within 30 days that you can go in and get your money refunded.  Especially on the bodybugg.  Most electronics will match a competitors price and guarantee the price will not drop within 30 days.  It is the same with their memberships. The pricing changes far too often. Check out Costco before you buy anything with 24 hour.  They have some awesome deals on 24 hour fitness memberships and the bodybugg. The prices through Costco do not seem to fluctuate nearly as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest problem this company has is it&#8217;s widely swinging prices.  One week they are on sale, then the next week they are not, the following week they are on sale again.  If your that person in the middle you feel screwed.  They are doing this with their bodybugg too.  An example, bodybugg on sale for one month for $199, then the first week of January they are $249, then the second week of January they drop the price to $199 again, but now they have designer face plates included.  The prices fluctuate way too often.  They need to have a regular price and then offer sales 3-4 times a year.  They should also offer a guarantee that if the price drops within 30 days that you can go in and get your money refunded.  Especially on the bodybugg.  Most electronics will match a competitors price and guarantee the price will not drop within 30 days.  It is the same with their memberships. The pricing changes far too often. Check out Costco before you buy anything with 24 hour.  They have some awesome deals on 24 hour fitness memberships and the bodybugg. The prices through Costco do not seem to fluctuate nearly as much.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:) agreed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  agreed!</p>
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		<title>By: Marci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have a Planet Fitness anywhere near you, I&#039;d go with them. They are a great place to work out (no fancy things, just plain gym equipment) and they offer personal trainers too. The only drawback is no group classes. They only charge $10/ month for one club access and no commitment or $20/month for all club access, free tanning and discounts on all their merchandise with a year commitment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have a Planet Fitness anywhere near you, I&#8217;d go with them. They are a great place to work out (no fancy things, just plain gym equipment) and they offer personal trainers too. The only drawback is no group classes. They only charge $10/ month for one club access and no commitment or $20/month for all club access, free tanning and discounts on all their merchandise with a year commitment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://plaxoed.wordpress.com/2005/05/11/24-hour-crapness/#comment-11322</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>24hr fitness sales-nothing but a bunch of low life scum bags!!  They have this &quot;I can get you&quot; attitude when you try to join the club.  They will ALWAYS quote you the highest price and never mention any of their current promotion.  If they want to stay in business they better get rid of their current staff and change the way they treat PEOPLE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24hr fitness sales-nothing but a bunch of low life scum bags!!  They have this &#8220;I can get you&#8221; attitude when you try to join the club.  They will ALWAYS quote you the highest price and never mention any of their current promotion.  If they want to stay in business they better get rid of their current staff and change the way they treat PEOPLE!</p>
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		<title>By: ursula</title>
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		<dc:creator>ursula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so here is my experience with 24 hour enrollment
So last night I waited for 15 min for that kid to get done with the other client-consequently I heard his whole spiel he gave to the other client. When it was finally my turn he tells me about all access pass for $38 or single gym pass for $32. I told him I am not paying that much money for something I am only going to use twice a week. So he was like well I get 3 friends &amp; family passes a quarter and I&#039;d like to give you one, it is $24 down and $24.99 a month so today I will need to collect from you $79.80.  I was like $24 &amp; $24.99 don’t add up to $79.80, he answers ya that’s right that is what you pay $79.80.  Again I am like where is the extra $25 or so coming from he says that is first &amp; last month&#039;s dues plus down payment very arrogant like that is so obvious duh you always pay first &amp; last month&#039;s dues at the same time.  So I am like ok I&#039;ll do it, may I look at the contract that I will be signing before I give you  $79.80.  he is like well after you sign up that comes to you in a email, I ask so I print it and sign it and bring it in right? His answer no you don’t sign anything we just send it to you later but you just pay the money right now.  Me being an amazing paralegal knew something fishy was going on here.  I was like so I give you money today and then you send me the contract that I supposedly already agreed to without seeing it, how can I be assured that what you tell me are the conditions are the same conditions you send me via email, basically you could put whatever you want in the email and no matter what I already agreed to it? He is just like yes that is how it works you pay first then get the contract in your email.  So then I was like well that is not going to work for me because I don’t sign up for anything w/o reading the contract completely, so I know exactly what I am getting into.  He looks at me like I hate you why did I get you why couldn’t someone else have helped you.  Then I ask about payment information like can I pay my monthly dues online or do I have to come into the Gym to pay them and what form of payment does gym accept and whatnot, and he is like oh we make it very easy for you we just automatically withdraw the money from your checking account each month- I told him that didn’t work for me either because every time I sign up for auto withdraw I somehow end up getting screwed cause it always seems that they made a mistake, they are so sorry for, but it takes months to correct that mistake. (billing me twice or billing me after I cancel). I ask when the payment comes out every month, he tells me that it is the 15th I tell him that when I get paid on the 15th of the month all the money goes toward my mortgage and car insurance so there would be none left for them to collect, as well as I never know how much money I have in my account and I forget about auto payments coming out and sometimes overdraft my account. (even if I put the money into my account some emergency always comes up where I need the money and will pay it back into my account then I forget to go to the bank and overdraft my account this is why I try to use all cash cause when I spend money with a debit card it is not like spending real money I don’t see the money going away)  he replies that you can pay at the Gym 15 days before the scheduled auto payment and it won&#039;t take money out of your account if you have paid 15 days before. This seems like a reasonable solution except for in asking what guarantee do you give me if I pay beforehand that they won&#039;t &quot;mistakenly&quot; bill be again on the 15th causing my account to overdraft, costing me $25, and paying the gym twice for the same month.  He says none I cannot give you any guarantee that it won&#039;t accidently come out but it is rare I only here of it happening to a few members every month, and that sometimes you just have to attribute it to &quot;human error&quot;, no one is perfect all the time.  At this point I am like this is not a very smart way to do business with people and exactly why I don’t do auto withdrawal for monthly payments.  So the manager comes over He then tells me that he has never had anyone pay within 15 days and still be auto charged that just doesn’t happen, (contradictory to what the other kid told me earlier.) I point this out, he replies ok if on the 1 in a million chance it happens to you if you pay your account 10-15 days before due and it still auto withdraws I will pay any overdraft fee you incur and credit you 2 months free membership.  I ask him to put that in writing he says ok.  I then tell him well what if I think I am going to have the money to make the payment on the 15th so I don’t prepay 15 days before and then something comes up and I then don’t have the money for the auto withdrawal on the 15th, that is a very difficult thing to predict 15 days in advance and some days no matter how hard you try you just can&#039;t get to the bank to deposit money, it is better if I control that so I am sure there is money to cover the payment ill still pay by the due date but maybe I&#039;ll pay it at night after I have gone to the bank instead of auto withdrawal taking the money out in the am before I have a chance to go to the bank or come into the gym, I mostly just pay everything with cash as I will pay the fees today.  He then tells me ok I will allow you to freeze your account up to 3 or 5 (I cannot remember) days before skd auto payment for 30 days without paying any fee for freezing account. He also tells me he will put that into writing, I am like ok put into writing then.  We address the issue of not reading the contract before I pay, he tells me that because I am getting a &quot;special deal&quot; friends &amp; family membership that this is just how it works there is no other option,  I inform him of this kids previous client in which he gives the same spiel or &quot;special deal&quot; to the other kid, I am like wow he only gets 3 of those per quarter and he gave 2 out in 1 day..... he ignores that comment and says ok let&#039;s see if we can get you a contract to read.  He finds one I begin reading. The contract was written in 1929 and says stuff like to contact us you can send correspondence using (snail) mail or by sending us a telegram WTF? Anyways contract says that the only way 24hour will let you freeze your account is if you provide medical reason, or military reason. The manager stipulates to the fact that I will be able to do so w/o those restrictions.  It also states that they reserve the right to add charges to your account for class fees and other misc fees they deem appropriate as well as dues increases provided they give you written notice 10 days before they take the money out of your account.  There is no recourse to this action it doesn’t provide for an objection by the member for these increases in fees specifically the fees for classes. So I ask what if someone decides that they are just not going to participate in that particular class are they not charged because according to contract this doesn’t matter all 24hour has to do is provide written notice 10 days before and they have complete rights to withdraw that money out of your account regardless if you agree to it or not.  I ask if they send the mail certified-NO.  I point out the fact that mail gets lost all the time how do they account that the member receives the written notice- UMMM THEY DON’T I GUESS.  (no matter what they tell me verbally anyways the contract doesn’t give those stipulations or rights to the member so it doesn’t count it is not in the contract) ok moving on it also says that payments may or may not be auto withdrawn on the specified date they could be before or after as necessary.  I ask what is necessary?  Umm well like if the 15th falls on a weekend then they take it out on another date.  Are you 100% positive that is what it means-NO what if the 15th doesn’t fall on a weekend can they still just withdraw payment before or after the specified date-UMM I DON’T KNOW. At this point the manager turns to me and says wow so obviously you are a very smart person most people don’t ask any of these questions (I am thinking really this isn’t rocket science it is pretty basic common sense) he then says he has to leave writes down his addendums to the contract signs it and leaves.  There are many other wrongs with the contract that the kid cannot explain or justify but cause this is already a novel I won&#039;t go in to those.  One very important clause to the contract clearly states that only what is written in this contract stands, any handwritten or oral agreements made are super seeded by what is on this contract no matter what, this contract rewrites anything that has been agreed upon in writing other than in this contract.  I point this out and the kid tells me well you are just going to have to trust that Cameron will do what he says he will do.  The last paragraph is particularly interesting it states something to the effect of- by giving my financial information to 24hours fitness I certify that I did not rely upon any oral or written promises made by 24hours or any of its employees to do so.  So no matter what if there was a dispute as to what the manager put into writing or what the kid told me what vague clauses meant (as they were not clearly described in the contract) I sign away any right I have to that information because I certify by giving money that I didn&#039;t make my decision based upon that info (which I certainly did).  The kid is like ohh uuuu well umm I didn’t know that was in there.  Have you ever read this contract all the way through? Him- NO I HAVENT. me That is interesting as you seemed to be able to provide many answers &amp; insights regarding the contract were you just making it all up? UMM NO WELL NO.  at that point I am like whatever no matter what it is only month to month it&#039;s not like I am signing up to continuously be screwed multiple times for 2 years, I am just signing up to be screwed 1 month at a time.  So I agree and say ok let&#039;s get signed up, I pull out $79.80 from my purse the kid starts inputting info into computer he comes to payment page I hand him the cash and he is like ohh shoot I forgot you can only pay with visa, MasterCard, or American express.  I look at my watch it is 10:25 pm I remind him that 2 hours ago I told him I would be paying in cash,  he is like I know I forgot you couldn’t pay with cash because I am giving you this &quot;special deal&quot; I respond laughing Fuck my life I just wasted 2 hours for nothing, I only have $70 in my account but I have hundreds in cash right here in my purse, still laughing.  He is like ok well when you come back on Wednesday for the aqua class you can sign up and pay then and I will give you the same deal. I respond- you said that you cannot give me a temp pass so I am not allowed to go to the class on Wednesday anyways.  he is like that is why you will be signing up to go to the class. So I have to come a lot early for the class then? I GUESS OR YOU CAN GO TO CLASS AND THEN SIGNUP. I am thinking to myself so how am I going to get into gym to go to class if I don’t have a membership but it is late so I don’t say anything.  I ask for his card so I can get the &quot;special deal&quot; when I come back on wed and leave.  By now it is almost 11pm and I am laughing my head off not believing that I really just sat here for over 2 hours and am walking out without a damn pass.  So I will go back on Wednesday, before the class. and try again. So that is my story all 2.5 hours of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so here is my experience with 24 hour enrollment<br />
So last night I waited for 15 min for that kid to get done with the other client-consequently I heard his whole spiel he gave to the other client. When it was finally my turn he tells me about all access pass for $38 or single gym pass for $32. I told him I am not paying that much money for something I am only going to use twice a week. So he was like well I get 3 friends &amp; family passes a quarter and I&#8217;d like to give you one, it is $24 down and $24.99 a month so today I will need to collect from you $79.80.  I was like $24 &amp; $24.99 don’t add up to $79.80, he answers ya that’s right that is what you pay $79.80.  Again I am like where is the extra $25 or so coming from he says that is first &amp; last month&#8217;s dues plus down payment very arrogant like that is so obvious duh you always pay first &amp; last month&#8217;s dues at the same time.  So I am like ok I&#8217;ll do it, may I look at the contract that I will be signing before I give you  $79.80.  he is like well after you sign up that comes to you in a email, I ask so I print it and sign it and bring it in right? His answer no you don’t sign anything we just send it to you later but you just pay the money right now.  Me being an amazing paralegal knew something fishy was going on here.  I was like so I give you money today and then you send me the contract that I supposedly already agreed to without seeing it, how can I be assured that what you tell me are the conditions are the same conditions you send me via email, basically you could put whatever you want in the email and no matter what I already agreed to it? He is just like yes that is how it works you pay first then get the contract in your email.  So then I was like well that is not going to work for me because I don’t sign up for anything w/o reading the contract completely, so I know exactly what I am getting into.  He looks at me like I hate you why did I get you why couldn’t someone else have helped you.  Then I ask about payment information like can I pay my monthly dues online or do I have to come into the Gym to pay them and what form of payment does gym accept and whatnot, and he is like oh we make it very easy for you we just automatically withdraw the money from your checking account each month- I told him that didn’t work for me either because every time I sign up for auto withdraw I somehow end up getting screwed cause it always seems that they made a mistake, they are so sorry for, but it takes months to correct that mistake. (billing me twice or billing me after I cancel). I ask when the payment comes out every month, he tells me that it is the 15th I tell him that when I get paid on the 15th of the month all the money goes toward my mortgage and car insurance so there would be none left for them to collect, as well as I never know how much money I have in my account and I forget about auto payments coming out and sometimes overdraft my account. (even if I put the money into my account some emergency always comes up where I need the money and will pay it back into my account then I forget to go to the bank and overdraft my account this is why I try to use all cash cause when I spend money with a debit card it is not like spending real money I don’t see the money going away)  he replies that you can pay at the Gym 15 days before the scheduled auto payment and it won&#8217;t take money out of your account if you have paid 15 days before. This seems like a reasonable solution except for in asking what guarantee do you give me if I pay beforehand that they won&#8217;t &#8220;mistakenly&#8221; bill be again on the 15th causing my account to overdraft, costing me $25, and paying the gym twice for the same month.  He says none I cannot give you any guarantee that it won&#8217;t accidently come out but it is rare I only here of it happening to a few members every month, and that sometimes you just have to attribute it to &#8220;human error&#8221;, no one is perfect all the time.  At this point I am like this is not a very smart way to do business with people and exactly why I don’t do auto withdrawal for monthly payments.  So the manager comes over He then tells me that he has never had anyone pay within 15 days and still be auto charged that just doesn’t happen, (contradictory to what the other kid told me earlier.) I point this out, he replies ok if on the 1 in a million chance it happens to you if you pay your account 10-15 days before due and it still auto withdraws I will pay any overdraft fee you incur and credit you 2 months free membership.  I ask him to put that in writing he says ok.  I then tell him well what if I think I am going to have the money to make the payment on the 15th so I don’t prepay 15 days before and then something comes up and I then don’t have the money for the auto withdrawal on the 15th, that is a very difficult thing to predict 15 days in advance and some days no matter how hard you try you just can&#8217;t get to the bank to deposit money, it is better if I control that so I am sure there is money to cover the payment ill still pay by the due date but maybe I&#8217;ll pay it at night after I have gone to the bank instead of auto withdrawal taking the money out in the am before I have a chance to go to the bank or come into the gym, I mostly just pay everything with cash as I will pay the fees today.  He then tells me ok I will allow you to freeze your account up to 3 or 5 (I cannot remember) days before skd auto payment for 30 days without paying any fee for freezing account. He also tells me he will put that into writing, I am like ok put into writing then.  We address the issue of not reading the contract before I pay, he tells me that because I am getting a &#8220;special deal&#8221; friends &amp; family membership that this is just how it works there is no other option,  I inform him of this kids previous client in which he gives the same spiel or &#8220;special deal&#8221; to the other kid, I am like wow he only gets 3 of those per quarter and he gave 2 out in 1 day&#8230;.. he ignores that comment and says ok let&#8217;s see if we can get you a contract to read.  He finds one I begin reading. The contract was written in 1929 and says stuff like to contact us you can send correspondence using (snail) mail or by sending us a telegram WTF? Anyways contract says that the only way 24hour will let you freeze your account is if you provide medical reason, or military reason. The manager stipulates to the fact that I will be able to do so w/o those restrictions.  It also states that they reserve the right to add charges to your account for class fees and other misc fees they deem appropriate as well as dues increases provided they give you written notice 10 days before they take the money out of your account.  There is no recourse to this action it doesn’t provide for an objection by the member for these increases in fees specifically the fees for classes. So I ask what if someone decides that they are just not going to participate in that particular class are they not charged because according to contract this doesn’t matter all 24hour has to do is provide written notice 10 days before and they have complete rights to withdraw that money out of your account regardless if you agree to it or not.  I ask if they send the mail certified-NO.  I point out the fact that mail gets lost all the time how do they account that the member receives the written notice- UMMM THEY DON’T I GUESS.  (no matter what they tell me verbally anyways the contract doesn’t give those stipulations or rights to the member so it doesn’t count it is not in the contract) ok moving on it also says that payments may or may not be auto withdrawn on the specified date they could be before or after as necessary.  I ask what is necessary?  Umm well like if the 15th falls on a weekend then they take it out on another date.  Are you 100% positive that is what it means-NO what if the 15th doesn’t fall on a weekend can they still just withdraw payment before or after the specified date-UMM I DON’T KNOW. At this point the manager turns to me and says wow so obviously you are a very smart person most people don’t ask any of these questions (I am thinking really this isn’t rocket science it is pretty basic common sense) he then says he has to leave writes down his addendums to the contract signs it and leaves.  There are many other wrongs with the contract that the kid cannot explain or justify but cause this is already a novel I won&#8217;t go in to those.  One very important clause to the contract clearly states that only what is written in this contract stands, any handwritten or oral agreements made are super seeded by what is on this contract no matter what, this contract rewrites anything that has been agreed upon in writing other than in this contract.  I point this out and the kid tells me well you are just going to have to trust that Cameron will do what he says he will do.  The last paragraph is particularly interesting it states something to the effect of- by giving my financial information to 24hours fitness I certify that I did not rely upon any oral or written promises made by 24hours or any of its employees to do so.  So no matter what if there was a dispute as to what the manager put into writing or what the kid told me what vague clauses meant (as they were not clearly described in the contract) I sign away any right I have to that information because I certify by giving money that I didn&#8217;t make my decision based upon that info (which I certainly did).  The kid is like ohh uuuu well umm I didn’t know that was in there.  Have you ever read this contract all the way through? Him- NO I HAVENT. me That is interesting as you seemed to be able to provide many answers &amp; insights regarding the contract were you just making it all up? UMM NO WELL NO.  at that point I am like whatever no matter what it is only month to month it&#8217;s not like I am signing up to continuously be screwed multiple times for 2 years, I am just signing up to be screwed 1 month at a time.  So I agree and say ok let&#8217;s get signed up, I pull out $79.80 from my purse the kid starts inputting info into computer he comes to payment page I hand him the cash and he is like ohh shoot I forgot you can only pay with visa, MasterCard, or American express.  I look at my watch it is 10:25 pm I remind him that 2 hours ago I told him I would be paying in cash,  he is like I know I forgot you couldn’t pay with cash because I am giving you this &#8220;special deal&#8221; I respond laughing Fuck my life I just wasted 2 hours for nothing, I only have $70 in my account but I have hundreds in cash right here in my purse, still laughing.  He is like ok well when you come back on Wednesday for the aqua class you can sign up and pay then and I will give you the same deal. I respond- you said that you cannot give me a temp pass so I am not allowed to go to the class on Wednesday anyways.  he is like that is why you will be signing up to go to the class. So I have to come a lot early for the class then? I GUESS OR YOU CAN GO TO CLASS AND THEN SIGNUP. I am thinking to myself so how am I going to get into gym to go to class if I don’t have a membership but it is late so I don’t say anything.  I ask for his card so I can get the &#8220;special deal&#8221; when I come back on wed and leave.  By now it is almost 11pm and I am laughing my head off not believing that I really just sat here for over 2 hours and am walking out without a damn pass.  So I will go back on Wednesday, before the class. and try again. So that is my story all 2.5 hours of it.</p>
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		<title>By: anomoly</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW eric! calm down!! i&#039;m glad i didn&#039;t come to you in order to sign up. Thanks for some of the inside info but you didn&#039;t have to get angry about it... lol.

I payed $600 for 3 years and $49 every year after. its a lot up front but it was so nice not to have to pay the per month fee.  When you do the numbers that&#039;s about $17 a month for 3 years, and $4 a month after the 3 years!!! and it&#039;s all clubs (except the super and ultra where you have to pay a bit extra).

I&#039;m sorry but there is no other deal where you could access clubs all over the country for 4 bucks a month. 

Costco has a 2 year deal $299 which comes out to about $13 a month... although i&#039;m not sure what happens after the 2 years. 

Either way i think if you can get the deal i got and if you can&#039;t afford it put it on a card and pay the monthly fee to your card (if your good with your money) that would be the best route IMO.

also check out searchalldeals.com or slickdeals.com they might have some special offers. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW eric! calm down!! i&#8217;m glad i didn&#8217;t come to you in order to sign up. Thanks for some of the inside info but you didn&#8217;t have to get angry about it&#8230; lol.</p>
<p>I payed $600 for 3 years and $49 every year after. its a lot up front but it was so nice not to have to pay the per month fee.  When you do the numbers that&#8217;s about $17 a month for 3 years, and $4 a month after the 3 years!!! and it&#8217;s all clubs (except the super and ultra where you have to pay a bit extra).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but there is no other deal where you could access clubs all over the country for 4 bucks a month. </p>
<p>Costco has a 2 year deal $299 which comes out to about $13 a month&#8230; although i&#8217;m not sure what happens after the 2 years. </p>
<p>Either way i think if you can get the deal i got and if you can&#8217;t afford it put it on a card and pay the monthly fee to your card (if your good with your money) that would be the best route IMO.</p>
<p>also check out searchalldeals.com or slickdeals.com they might have some special offers. </p>
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