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	<title>Comments on: Y! Mail Beta slower than snail mail?</title>
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		<title>By: markjen</title>
		<link>http://plaxoed.wordpress.com/2006/11/07/y-mail-beta-slower-than-snail-mail/#comment-11047</link>
		<dc:creator>markjen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 16:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jordan, I used to use Gmail about a year ago and ran into some problems. (Gmail went down a few times and dropped quite a few e-mails)

Perhaps it&#039;s time to give Gmail a shot again :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jordan, I used to use Gmail about a year ago and ran into some problems. (Gmail went down a few times and dropped quite a few e-mails)</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s time to give Gmail a shot again <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Meeter</title>
		<link>http://plaxoed.wordpress.com/2006/11/07/y-mail-beta-slower-than-snail-mail/#comment-11046</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan Meeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 06:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just curious, why don&#039;t you use Gmail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious, why don&#8217;t you use Gmail?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Leathern</title>
		<link>http://plaxoed.wordpress.com/2006/11/07/y-mail-beta-slower-than-snail-mail/#comment-11045</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Leathern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 21:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s interesting is that I&#039;ve sent emails to my yahoo.com email address from another account recently and had them be slow to come through but when I use the yahoo-domain-hosted email address that delivers to the same account it was instantaneous. weird. BTW now also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wherewire.com/leathern/2006/11/get_your_lead_gen_offers_in_ya.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;as I blogged recently&lt;/a&gt; Yahoo! is selling off ad space inserted into emails sent from non-Beta Yahoo! emails...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s interesting is that I&#8217;ve sent emails to my yahoo.com email address from another account recently and had them be slow to come through but when I use the yahoo-domain-hosted email address that delivers to the same account it was instantaneous. weird. BTW now also <a href="http://www.wherewire.com/leathern/2006/11/get_your_lead_gen_offers_in_ya.html" rel="nofollow">as I blogged recently</a> Yahoo! is selling off ad space inserted into emails sent from non-Beta Yahoo! emails&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: markjen</title>
		<link>http://plaxoed.wordpress.com/2006/11/07/y-mail-beta-slower-than-snail-mail/#comment-11044</link>
		<dc:creator>markjen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jbx - While it&#039;s true that regardless of what e-mail server/service you use delivery can be slow, I&#039;ve found that some services are better than others. I&#039;ve also run my own exchange server; and I&#039;ve never had a e-mail delivery problem then.

If you&#039;re sensitive to ads, then I think Windows Live Mail will appeal to you. In the current version of Windows Live Mail I&#039;m using, there is only a tiny ad in the bottom left hand corner (maybe 100px x 50px), much smaller than GMail&#039;s advertisement areas.

I like GMail too, but I&#039;ve had e-mail delivery problems with GMail before. I still use GMail for my mark@plaxoed.com e-mail :)

Nick - Now that you mention it, I must say that I also did notice that the e-mail delivery problem started occuring recently. When I first got onto the new Y! Mail Beta, I didn&#039;t remember having any problems; but back then there were far fewer users for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jbx &#8211; While it&#8217;s true that regardless of what e-mail server/service you use delivery can be slow, I&#8217;ve found that some services are better than others. I&#8217;ve also run my own exchange server; and I&#8217;ve never had a e-mail delivery problem then.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re sensitive to ads, then I think Windows Live Mail will appeal to you. In the current version of Windows Live Mail I&#8217;m using, there is only a tiny ad in the bottom left hand corner (maybe 100px x 50px), much smaller than GMail&#8217;s advertisement areas.</p>
<p>I like GMail too, but I&#8217;ve had e-mail delivery problems with GMail before. I still use GMail for my <a href="mailto:mark@plaxoed.com">mark@plaxoed.com</a> e-mail <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Nick &#8211; Now that you mention it, I must say that I also did notice that the e-mail delivery problem started occuring recently. When I first got onto the new Y! Mail Beta, I didn&#8217;t remember having any problems; but back then there were far fewer users for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, I don&#039;t know about the adds, I&#039;ve been a plus customer so long I forgot that they stuck adds in the free side.  Anyways, I&#039;ve notice that ever since they released the beta across the board I&#039;ve been having issues.  When it was only available to us plus folks, I never saw a problem.  I wonder if yahoo just under-estimated the number of people that would be switching to the beta?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, I don&#8217;t know about the adds, I&#8217;ve been a plus customer so long I forgot that they stuck adds in the free side.  Anyways, I&#8217;ve notice that ever since they released the beta across the board I&#8217;ve been having issues.  When it was only available to us plus folks, I never saw a problem.  I wonder if yahoo just under-estimated the number of people that would be switching to the beta?</p>
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		<title>By: jbx</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 08:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slow delivery is a problem that occurs every once in a while no matter what system you use - including your own personal server.  There&#039;s just so much that can go wrong; especially now that so many servers will decide almost randomly that your mail is spam - and not deliver it.

For me the bigger issues are the design issues - for Yahoo, it seems every month they find some new intrusive place to stuff ads.  For AIM, are they browser-centric yet, or do they still require an app download?  I still like gmail best, because of the vastly superior threading, but if you prefer a folder UI to a labels UI, gmail is not for you...

One comparison I&#039;d like is, between all of these, if you max a window on a 1024x768 screen, how many pixels are actually dedicated to being able to read your e-mail?  (As opposed to the folders list, the icons, and the ads)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slow delivery is a problem that occurs every once in a while no matter what system you use &#8211; including your own personal server.  There&#8217;s just so much that can go wrong; especially now that so many servers will decide almost randomly that your mail is spam &#8211; and not deliver it.</p>
<p>For me the bigger issues are the design issues &#8211; for Yahoo, it seems every month they find some new intrusive place to stuff ads.  For AIM, are they browser-centric yet, or do they still require an app download?  I still like gmail best, because of the vastly superior threading, but if you prefer a folder UI to a labels UI, gmail is not for you&#8230;</p>
<p>One comparison I&#8217;d like is, between all of these, if you max a window on a 1024&#215;768 screen, how many pixels are actually dedicated to being able to read your e-mail?  (As opposed to the folders list, the icons, and the ads)</p>
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		<title>By: markjen</title>
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		<dc:creator>markjen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 00:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for finding someone to debug this issue David :)

Rose - hehe, there&#039;s a giant ad just out of view in AIM Mail too :)

Ryan - I&#039;d be glad to help debug this issue and figure out what&#039;s going on. I&#039;ve sent you an e-mail; feel free to also IM me at plaxomark (Y! or AIM).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for finding someone to debug this issue David <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Rose &#8211; hehe, there&#8217;s a giant ad just out of view in AIM Mail too <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ryan &#8211; I&#8217;d be glad to help debug this issue and figure out what&#8217;s going on. I&#8217;ve sent you an e-mail; feel free to also IM me at plaxomark (Y! or AIM).</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, this actually isn&#039;t an issue with Yahoo! Mail Beta, it&#039;s an issue in the delivery system (not that that makes things any better). Drop me a line and I can collect some info from you and we&#039;ll see if we can find out why these messages were delayed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, this actually isn&#8217;t an issue with Yahoo! Mail Beta, it&#8217;s an issue in the delivery system (not that that makes things any better). Drop me a line and I can collect some info from you and we&#8217;ll see if we can find out why these messages were delayed.</p>
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		<title>By: rose</title>
		<link>http://plaxoed.wordpress.com/2006/11/07/y-mail-beta-slower-than-snail-mail/#comment-11039</link>
		<dc:creator>rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like the giant ad in your yahoo screen shot snippet :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like the giant ad in your yahoo screen shot snippet <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Yang</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Yang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mark - I noticed similar things in the mail beta and will ask around internally to see if I can get some answers as to why that might be happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mark &#8211; I noticed similar things in the mail beta and will ask around internally to see if I can get some answers as to why that might be happening.</p>
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